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Michael Shermer is Concerned

Tuesday, December 1st, 2009

Michael Shermer is concerned.

As if it weren’t bad enough that one of his more famous books is just a paraphrase of Pinker’s The Blank Slate or that his PowerPoint presentations are so awful as to be considered crimes against humanity under the Geneva Convention or that he insists on promoting his libertarianism in every talk, no matter how irrelevant to the topic, he’s apparently taken to concern trolling now.

The facts are these. Shermer wrote a rather bland article about religion and evolution for CNN. Jerry Coyne quoted two paragraphs of Shermer’s conclusion and explained why it represents both an arrogant and unrealistic view of people’s religious beliefs. But he called Shermer an “accomodationist”, which is an apt descriptive term for someone who feels, as Shermer evidently does, that religion and science can coexist — accomodate one another, if you will. In response, Shermer threw a hissy fit about the big, mean Jerry Coyne being a big, mean meany head to him.

At no point in Shermer’s whine does he bother to explain why his position is not, as Coyne claims, profoundly arrogant. He just quotes a couple of commenters and has a good laugh about how superior he is to Jerry Coyne and how enlightened he is, even while he digresses to say that “there is more than one way” and suggests that even the unwashed, unsophisticated, rabid mongrels like Coyne and Dawkins might have a place. There might be some use for that, he says, then quotes someone else who says that Shermer’s approach will “reduce religion’s virulence”. I see that asserted all the time. I’d like some kind of demonstration, at some point, that it actually works.

Because this is the part of Coyne’s post that Shermer ignored to focus on the term “accomodationist”:

Who is Shermer, I suggest, to tell people what beliefs should or should not “matter” to them? Try telling this to a fundamentalist Christian or a devout Muslim. To these folks, scripture is scripture, and it matters that it is true. If, as recent work suggests, prayer doesn’t work, should Shermer tell the faithful that it doesn’t matter whether or not they pray?

That’s a good question. Coyne’s use of fundamentalists for his example was inapt, though. The question applies just as equally to any believer. How is Shermer telling someone, “Oh, you can believe in this kind of god but not that kind of god?” any better than what Shermer sees as Coyne’s “head-on, take-no-prisoners, full-frontal assault”. How is it any less offensive? I’d argue it’s not. It’s just that Coyne and Dawkins and PZ Myers have the honesty to admit what they genuinely believe — that there is not evidence for the existence of a god — rather than pussyfooting around it saying, “Well, I don’t think there is, but you can think there is, and I won’t say anything about that as long as you believe everything else I think you should.”

The bottom line is, Shermer’s mockery is all out of proportion with the fact that Coyne raised a good point. And for that matter, Shermer doesn’t acknowledge the fact that he is, in fact, despite his own protestations to the contrary, attempting to dictate what is and is not an acceptable form of religious belief. Which is fine, if for fuck’s sake you just have the integrity to admit that you’re doing it.

The Jefferson Memorial

Tuesday, November 10th, 2009

Mike the Mad Biologist reminded me of something that struck me during my recent trip to Washington, DC. My trip being, as it was, Fallout-themed, I of course had to visit the Jefferson Memorial, and the memorial made quite an impression on me, both for the rather imposing statue of Jefferson at its center and for the quotations that adorned its walls. Mike’s post, of course, primarily reminded me of this one, from a letter addressed to James Madison:

Almighty God hath created the mind free…All attempts to influence it by temporal punishments or burthens…are a departure from the plan of the Holy Author of our religion…No man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship or ministry or shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief, but all men shall be free to profess and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of religion. I know but one code of morality for men whether acting singly or collectively.

Obviously, that passage serves as a rather appropriate retort to any of this “America is a Christian nation! Freedom of religion, not freedom from religion!” bullshit, but, more circumspectly, I mainly just wish that more people had the sense to recognise that attempting to use the power of government force people to believe as they do isn’t in their own best interest. Political power changes hands quite frequently, and the shoe can wind up on the other foot at any time. It’s far better to pursue and promote universal principles of freedom both of and from any particular creed, because the power to compel can easily be turned against its first wielder.

Poe’s Law Strikes Again

Friday, October 30th, 2009

I was going to write a snarky post here, in reference to Ray Comfort’s hideously dishonest mangling of The Origin of Species, in which I declared my intent to publish an abridged version of the Bible that cuts out everything except the parts where God orders the Israelites to commit genocide and maybe that one part where Jesus has the badass line about bringing not peace but a sword.

Then I remembered that the Conservative Bible Project already exists.

Margo Magee: Skeptic?

Saturday, September 26th, 2009

I report, you decide.

I need facts, Roger, not blessings!

Freedom “Of”, Not “From”

Thursday, July 16th, 2009

Hey, you know what I hate? Textbook cardboard. You know why I hate it? Stupid shit like this ignorant moron’s editorial that PZ covered.

Yes, that’s right, folks. It’s yet another instance of the “freedom of religion, not freedom from religion” argument:

Let’s start by pointing out the First Amendment doesn’t grant freedom “from” religion, just freedom “of” religion.

Hey! The First Amendment! I’ve heard of that! In fact, I think the very first clause of it says that we have “freedom of religion”, right? In those exact, legally-binding words? Oh, wait:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

Well. Hm. I… Yeah, so, that whole “freedom of religion” phrase isn’t in there at all, is it? How about that. In fact, it’s quite reasonably interpreted to mean that the government cannot force anyone to observe any religion (especially reasonable in light of the “no religious tests for office” clause in the original Constitution itself), which sounds a lot like “freedom from religion” to me.

So anybody who tries this “freedom of religion, not freedom from religion” line can take their stupid, cardboard-based argument and cram it up their ass.

She Turned Them Into Newts

Friday, January 30th, 2009

Hey, America! Remember how you used to hear those stories about women in Africa being accused of witchcraft and murdered? Remember how you would get all smugly superior about those silly savages thinking witches are real?

Well, that shit has come home to roost. Not so fucking funny now that it’s happening in your own country, is it?

But, hey, atheists, stop being so bloody strident. Stop criticising these silly parody of religious belief! Here in America, we all sit around pondering the Essential Precondition of Being. We’re far too sophisticated for that straw version of Christianity you’re always arguing against.

Eine Kleine Snark-musik

Saturday, August 2nd, 2008

Some idiot about the legalisation of gay marriage in California:

I agree with the article above that says America is going to Hell in a hand basket. All we have to do is study how Rome fell, from within and America is going that way. … I think we have to get back to the Bible if we want God to bless this country again.

Last I checked, Rome didn’t fall until after Constantine made Christianity the state religion.

Just sayin’.

Fine, I’ll Post About Crackers

Wednesday, July 16th, 2008

But just this once. And actually, I’m just going to quote somebody else. I was going to write up my own post comparing this whole business of Host Desecration to the binding spells used to create Sealed Evil In A Can, but instead I’ll just quote the Minnesota Independent from this interview with PZ:

MnIndy: I was raised Catholic, was an altar boy, and attended Catholic grade school and college. While I was taught to be reverent with Catholic symbols and artifacts, I also learned of a powerful god, totally unlike this fragile one that can be damaged by a non-believer’s mishandling of a communion wafer.

Too right. That reinforces a point PZ makes in the interview. People are getting uppity about these trivial things precisely because they’re frightened about actually substantive threats to their cherished delusions. People who are confident in their beliefs don’t fret about the damage done to their omnipotent deity by college students and biology professors. Certainly not enough to start sending around death threats.

It just seems to me that the ones who profess their faith most strongly are usually the same ones who are too impatient to let God’s will be done on His schedule, tripping over themselves to do it for Him.

I’ve Finally Arrived!

Thursday, July 10th, 2008

Yes, my status as a blogospheric atheist is at last validated. I’ve finally got my first dumbass troll.

I’m already getting a bit tired of him, though. He’s a bit tedious, as most trolls are, so I wonder if somebody else doesn’t want to have a go instead.

He’s commenting on my Dinesh D’Souza post. Yes, the guy is defending Dinesh D’Souza. You can see why I’m getting tired of him.

Squick Doesn’t Begin to Cover It

Tuesday, July 8th, 2008

Amanda Marcotte at Pandagon contributes to creeping me the Hell out with this quote from a book review by a weirdo fundie wife:

[My husband’s] purity is extremely important to me, so I try to meet his needs so that he goes out each day with his cup full.

Seriously, try to read that without going, “EW EW EW EW EW EW EW EW EW EW EW EW EW EW EW EW EW EW EW EW EW EW EW!” in your head a few hundred times.

This is part of the whole weird fundie thing where they try to claim that “saving” yourself for marriage (which only applies to women, of course) makes sex way, way better. Of course, in reality, it just makes sex creepy and weird when you talking about keeping your husband’s cup full. Oh, God, I think I just threw up in my mouth a bit having to type that.

Seriously, is there anything these people can’t ruin?